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	<title>Comments on: Risk Perception in Data Centers</title>
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	<description>Data storage info &#38; analysis</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 21:22:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Alex Gorbachev</title>
		<link>http://storagemojo.com/2006/11/09/risk-perception-in-data-centers/#comment-196503</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Gorbachev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 01:05:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robin, sorry for couple duplicated trackbacks this weekend. I organized post syndication from my company blog to my personal one and, while temporary broke my feed to avoid flooding, I forgot to disable pingbacks. Please feel free to delete this comment and duplicate trackbacks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robin, sorry for couple duplicated trackbacks this weekend. I organized post syndication from my company blog to my personal one and, while temporary broke my feed to avoid flooding, I forgot to disable pingbacks. Please feel free to delete this comment and duplicate trackbacks.</p>
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		<title>By: Which Risks Are You Protected From? at Oracloid Blog</title>
		<link>http://storagemojo.com/2006/11/09/risk-perception-in-data-centers/#comment-196455</link>
		<dc:creator>Which Risks Are You Protected From? at Oracloid Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 00:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Pythian Group Blog &#187; Which Risks Are You Protected From?</title>
		<link>http://storagemojo.com/2006/11/09/risk-perception-in-data-centers/#comment-36179</link>
		<dc:creator>Pythian Group Blog &#187; Which Risks Are You Protected From?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2007 23:28:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Kevin recently mentioned one very nice blog. I was going through some posts there and this entry reminded me one story. I&#8217;m sure many of you can recall similar cases. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://storagemojo.com/2006/11/09/risk-perception-in-data-centers/#comment-8319</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 12:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robin,

This is a very good question ... why has it not taken off in a big way ?.

Why not replicate to two places..? Is this a problem with cost...  it builds up if you need to feel very secure. 

Also, it is only human to do the backup locally, if you already retain an in-house infrastructure in order to operate your business.  

Perhaps one needs to offer more value, at higher cost.

For example…  given sufficient direct bandwidth.... a remote mirror, backed by CDP plus traditional backup, all from one remote Storage Center. 

The customer is protected when his primary storage fails (continues to run off the remote mirror)...  and is able to restore when the local system is back "on air”.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robin,</p>
<p>This is a very good question &#8230; why has it not taken off in a big way ?.</p>
<p>Why not replicate to two places..? Is this a problem with cost&#8230;  it builds up if you need to feel very secure. </p>
<p>Also, it is only human to do the backup locally, if you already retain an in-house infrastructure in order to operate your business.  </p>
<p>Perhaps one needs to offer more value, at higher cost.</p>
<p>For example…  given sufficient direct bandwidth&#8230;. a remote mirror, backed by CDP plus traditional backup, all from one remote Storage Center. </p>
<p>The customer is protected when his primary storage fails (continues to run off the remote mirror)&#8230;  and is able to restore when the local system is back &#8220;on air”.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Pearson</title>
		<link>http://storagemojo.com/2006/11/09/risk-perception-in-data-centers/#comment-8316</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Pearson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 09:05:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep! You are right on!

I remember the first time I heard SPOP, Storage Point(s) of Presence. I thought to myself, "What a great idea whose time has come". 

Are there any xSPs, other than ISPs still in business? I wonder how SOA will affect this? SOA is a big bear to handle for people who balk at the complexity of ILM?

Offshoring and Outsourcing have become common. OutStoring is still a bad word. It is not a bad idea.

Take your corporate laptop. How often is it backed up? Regularly you say. Great! Where, and in what form, is the backup stored? Tape at Iron Mountain? Local disk at the office? 

Regardless of where and in what form, what is your RTO (Recovery Time Objective) and RPO (Recovery Point Objective) for the laptop? 
It makes a big difference in the Strategy and Solution to use.

Personally, I want my 100GB of "Personal Information" restored in 1 hour, preferred, or 8 hours maximum. Assume the disk is full. That's either 100GB  or 12.5GB per hour. Sounds easy. Anybody benchmarked their laptop to see what they can get in the real world?

Consider this Strategy. I make regular backups to multiple Online Storage services. At least three. Preferably the three best. Determining that is another post. This is automatic and done while I sleep or any time I am online. CDP like.

I lose my hard drive, or worse yet I lose my laptop, everything is out there accessible by me, or my authorized agent, 24x7xforever?x or 365? 
All I need is a new drive, even an external one if my laptop will boot from it, and I am off to the races. 

If I am really good at Solutions then I have a local external drive with my "up-to-date" laptop image on it which is my local failover and short term Information Storage. I just boot up off the external and keep working until the new disk arrives and I have time to restore it.

That same scenario can be used from a personal laptop to the Enterprise Data Center. Only the granularity changes. Think in terms of a local SPOP for the Data Center.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep! You are right on!</p>
<p>I remember the first time I heard SPOP, Storage Point(s) of Presence. I thought to myself, &#8220;What a great idea whose time has come&#8221;. </p>
<p>Are there any xSPs, other than ISPs still in business? I wonder how SOA will affect this? SOA is a big bear to handle for people who balk at the complexity of ILM?</p>
<p>Offshoring and Outsourcing have become common. OutStoring is still a bad word. It is not a bad idea.</p>
<p>Take your corporate laptop. How often is it backed up? Regularly you say. Great! Where, and in what form, is the backup stored? Tape at Iron Mountain? Local disk at the office? </p>
<p>Regardless of where and in what form, what is your RTO (Recovery Time Objective) and RPO (Recovery Point Objective) for the laptop?<br />
It makes a big difference in the Strategy and Solution to use.</p>
<p>Personally, I want my 100GB of &#8220;Personal Information&#8221; restored in 1 hour, preferred, or 8 hours maximum. Assume the disk is full. That&#8217;s either 100GB  or 12.5GB per hour. Sounds easy. Anybody benchmarked their laptop to see what they can get in the real world?</p>
<p>Consider this Strategy. I make regular backups to multiple Online Storage services. At least three. Preferably the three best. Determining that is another post. This is automatic and done while I sleep or any time I am online. CDP like.</p>
<p>I lose my hard drive, or worse yet I lose my laptop, everything is out there accessible by me, or my authorized agent, 24&#215;7xforever?x or 365?<br />
All I need is a new drive, even an external one if my laptop will boot from it, and I am off to the races. </p>
<p>If I am really good at Solutions then I have a local external drive with my &#8220;up-to-date&#8221; laptop image on it which is my local failover and short term Information Storage. I just boot up off the external and keep working until the new disk arrives and I have time to restore it.</p>
<p>That same scenario can be used from a personal laptop to the Enterprise Data Center. Only the granularity changes. Think in terms of a local SPOP for the Data Center.</p>
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		<title>By: Robin Harris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robin Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2006 19:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm saying that people are comfortable with what they control, even if it doesn't work very well, and risk-averse when it comes to something where they don't have control. 

Obviously, Amazon maintains a 7x24 financial transaction-based business that rivals just about anything out there. They use S3 internally. Realistically, its failure rate must be at least 100x lower than tape.

Yet none of the on-line backup solutions I'm aware of has taken off in a big way. Why? Bandwidth is one problem, of course. Yet it also seems to me that the control/security issue is primary. Not rational, and very human.

Robin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m saying that people are comfortable with what they control, even if it doesn&#8217;t work very well, and risk-averse when it comes to something where they don&#8217;t have control. </p>
<p>Obviously, Amazon maintains a 7&#215;24 financial transaction-based business that rivals just about anything out there. They use S3 internally. Realistically, its failure rate must be at least 100x lower than tape.</p>
<p>Yet none of the on-line backup solutions I&#8217;m aware of has taken off in a big way. Why? Bandwidth is one problem, of course. Yet it also seems to me that the control/security issue is primary. Not rational, and very human.</p>
<p>Robin</p>
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		<title>By: Prashanth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prashanth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2006 19:40:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didnt quite get this -
"Back up our precious data to good old tape, where the failure rates range as high as 40%? No problem. Outsource our data archive to Cleversafe or Amazon? A scary thought. "

Are you saying that outsourcing data to CleverSafe/Amazon is not as bad as people make it out to be ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didnt quite get this -<br />
&#8220;Back up our precious data to good old tape, where the failure rates range as high as 40%? No problem. Outsource our data archive to Cleversafe or Amazon? A scary thought. &#8221;</p>
<p>Are you saying that outsourcing data to CleverSafe/Amazon is not as bad as people make it out to be ?</p>
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