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		<title>By: Ludovic Leforestier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ludovic Leforestier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 11:20:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad to like Dtrace and this video :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad to like Dtrace and this video <img src='http://storagemojo.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Hard Drive Performance Dropped Significantly By Noise &#124; Revelations From An Unwashed Brain</title>
		<link>http://storagemojo.com/2009/01/02/shh-disk-drive-at-work/comment-page-1/#comment-209195</link>
		<dc:creator>Hard Drive Performance Dropped Significantly By Noise &#124; Revelations From An Unwashed Brain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2010 23:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] enterprise situations, and how the problems can be very costly in terms of performance. It has been demonstrated that shouting at a disk drive will cause it to stop. But what about the constant nagging they get [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] enterprise situations, and how the problems can be very costly in terms of performance. It has been demonstrated that shouting at a disk drive will cause it to stop. But what about the constant nagging they get [...]</p>
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		<title>By: It&#8217;s Getting Rather Cloudy Out There&#8230; &#171; Bob Porras &#8211; Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>It&#8217;s Getting Rather Cloudy Out There&#8230; &#171; Bob Porras &#8211; Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 20:41:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] DS, etc.).&#160; Advantage goes to the cloud who has the technology and assembles computes, storage, interconnect, developer tools, systems management, applications, services, choice, price, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] DS, etc.).&nbsp; Advantage goes to the cloud who has the technology and assembles computes, storage, interconnect, developer tools, systems management, applications, services, choice, price, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Anderson</title>
		<link>http://storagemojo.com/2009/01/02/shh-disk-drive-at-work/comment-page-1/#comment-199141</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 16:17:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have a composite substrate material, for HDD media, which exhibits a very highly damped characteristic that would eliminate this troubling phenomena, and is similar in costs to glass substrate materials.  Unfortuantely, we have not been successful to find a company to evaluate this material for the future use in high performance HDD&#039;s.   Any interested prospects for an evaluation?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have a composite substrate material, for HDD media, which exhibits a very highly damped characteristic that would eliminate this troubling phenomena, and is similar in costs to glass substrate materials.  Unfortuantely, we have not been successful to find a company to evaluate this material for the future use in high performance HDD&#8217;s.   Any interested prospects for an evaluation?</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://storagemojo.com/2009/01/02/shh-disk-drive-at-work/comment-page-1/#comment-199074</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 07:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally agree with Dipe. We had a Sun Storage 7210 unit for evaluation and it was incredible! The hybrid storage pools enabled by ZFS delivered great performance and Analytics is addictive :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree with Dipe. We had a Sun Storage 7210 unit for evaluation and it was incredible! The hybrid storage pools enabled by ZFS delivered great performance and Analytics is addictive <img src='http://storagemojo.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: dipe</title>
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		<dc:creator>dipe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 09:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robin,

I love reading storagemojo.com and got some incredible insights over the years but now I am a little grumpy. Sun&#039;s Amber Road with the fishworks framework was long expected and many people were extremely curious about this potential netapp replacement. I watched the videos when it was released in december and must say that I have not seen anything as exciting for a long time. So I was curious what you had to say about it  and checked every few days but surprisingly I did not see anything on storagemojo. Now you are suggesting that they have 15K drives which shows that you have read nada about this product. Their tiered storage concept involves a ZFS modification to allow tiering from 128GB DRAM to up to 600 GB flash to 7200 RPM disks. Apparently this product does not need any faster drives, Sun  even considers ditching the 7200 disks in favor of 4200 RPM disks to save power and does not expect a huge performance hit.  
I would still be interested to read your opinion on the Sun Storage 7000 series.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robin,</p>
<p>I love reading storagemojo.com and got some incredible insights over the years but now I am a little grumpy. Sun&#8217;s Amber Road with the fishworks framework was long expected and many people were extremely curious about this potential netapp replacement. I watched the videos when it was released in december and must say that I have not seen anything as exciting for a long time. So I was curious what you had to say about it  and checked every few days but surprisingly I did not see anything on storagemojo. Now you are suggesting that they have 15K drives which shows that you have read nada about this product. Their tiered storage concept involves a ZFS modification to allow tiering from 128GB DRAM to up to 600 GB flash to 7200 RPM disks. Apparently this product does not need any faster drives, Sun  even considers ditching the 7200 disks in favor of 4200 RPM disks to save power and does not expect a huge performance hit.<br />
I would still be interested to read your opinion on the Sun Storage 7000 series.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Jones</title>
		<link>http://storagemojo.com/2009/01/02/shh-disk-drive-at-work/comment-page-1/#comment-199019</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 20:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I forgot to say that this is not just of academic interest if you are buying a camcorder for videoing bands. My Sony hard-drive camcorder gets &quot;buffer overflow&quot; error messages and restarts if I&#039;m too close to a loud rock band, although it&#039;s fine with acoustic acts. If you want to record load sounds with a camcorder then the safest option is probably SSD or tape. DVD recorder camcorders might be OK but avoid hard drive ones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I forgot to say that this is not just of academic interest if you are buying a camcorder for videoing bands. My Sony hard-drive camcorder gets &#8220;buffer overflow&#8221; error messages and restarts if I&#8217;m too close to a loud rock band, although it&#8217;s fine with acoustic acts. If you want to record load sounds with a camcorder then the safest option is probably SSD or tape. DVD recorder camcorders might be OK but avoid hard drive ones.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete Steege</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete Steege</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 17:24:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now let&#039;s see who can find the sound or music that increases drive performance...
What a hoot.  Thanks Robin!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now let&#8217;s see who can find the sound or music that increases drive performance&#8230;<br />
What a hoot.  Thanks Robin!</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 09:09:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suspect that it is the rapidly changing air pressure of yelling into the drives this effect. That&#039;s vibration of a sort of course, but air vibration, not mechanically transmitted. I assume the reason this doesn&#039;t happen so much with the very high background level noise of that room is that his yelling has a much higher low-frequency component. If you look at a Hi-Fi loudspeaker, then you&#039;ll see the bass units move much further than the high frequency units.

Of course what this does prove is just how finely balanced disk drives are in a mechanical sense. That&#039;s the wonder, and also the weakness of them. I&#039;m assuming that what happened here is that no data corruption occured and that the drives stop writing when they sense the head moving too far off the data track and what we are actually seeing is a delay put in by the firmware to allow the vibration to dampen down. If this sort of event caused data corruption then that would be far more serious than a glitch in I/O.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suspect that it is the rapidly changing air pressure of yelling into the drives this effect. That&#8217;s vibration of a sort of course, but air vibration, not mechanically transmitted. I assume the reason this doesn&#8217;t happen so much with the very high background level noise of that room is that his yelling has a much higher low-frequency component. If you look at a Hi-Fi loudspeaker, then you&#8217;ll see the bass units move much further than the high frequency units.</p>
<p>Of course what this does prove is just how finely balanced disk drives are in a mechanical sense. That&#8217;s the wonder, and also the weakness of them. I&#8217;m assuming that what happened here is that no data corruption occured and that the drives stop writing when they sense the head moving too far off the data track and what we are actually seeing is a delay put in by the firmware to allow the vibration to dampen down. If this sort of event caused data corruption then that would be far more serious than a glitch in I/O.</p>
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		<title>By: Wes Felter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wes Felter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 20:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is this, Wikipedia? You don&#039;t trust me, Robin? :-) All right, here are the specs: http://www.sun.com/storage/disk_systems/unified_storage/7410/specs.xml</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is this, Wikipedia? You don&#8217;t trust me, Robin? <img src='http://storagemojo.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  All right, here are the specs: <a href="http://www.sun.com/storage/disk_systems/unified_storage/7410/specs.xml" rel="nofollow">http://www.sun.com/storage/disk_systems/unified_storage/7410/specs.xml</a></p>
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		<title>By: Cinetica Blog &#187; Analisi Performance</title>
		<link>http://storagemojo.com/2009/01/02/shh-disk-drive-at-work/comment-page-1/#comment-199005</link>
		<dc:creator>Cinetica Blog &#187; Analisi Performance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 15:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] letto questo bellissimo post di Brendan Greg, ripreso anche da Robin Harris sul suo blog con ottimi commenti a [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Wes Felter</title>
		<link>http://storagemojo.com/2009/01/02/shh-disk-drive-at-work/comment-page-1/#comment-198999</link>
		<dc:creator>Wes Felter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 08:02:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They&#039;re 7.2k drives, and you can&#039;t use Fishworks with non-Sun enclosures.</description>
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		<title>By: Devang Panchigar</title>
		<link>http://storagemojo.com/2009/01/02/shh-disk-drive-at-work/comment-page-1/#comment-198997</link>
		<dc:creator>Devang Panchigar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 02:25:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good stuff Robin.....I would surely be interested to see what EMC&#039;s Seismic chamber causes these disk arrays to do.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good stuff Robin&#8230;..I would surely be interested to see what EMC&#8217;s Seismic chamber causes these disk arrays to do&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Louis Gray (BlueArc)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Louis Gray (BlueArc)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 18:08:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This serves as a good reminder to yell at your vendor&#039;s sales people, and not at the equipment itself. Nice video and good find, Robin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This serves as a good reminder to yell at your vendor&#8217;s sales people, and not at the equipment itself. Nice video and good find, Robin.</p>
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