Comments on: Avere Systems: dynamic tiering for the masses – of data? http://storagemojo.com/2009/08/06/avere-systems-dynamic-tiering-for-the-masses-of-data/ Data storage info & analysis Tue, 07 Feb 2012 16:02:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: xfer_rdy http://storagemojo.com/2009/08/06/avere-systems-dynamic-tiering-for-the-masses-of-data/comment-page-1/#comment-204643 xfer_rdy Sun, 09 Aug 2009 16:27:43 +0000 http://storagemojo.com/?p=1522#comment-204643 Dynamic tiering.... it sound like another einsteinian metaphore; relative to the user's expectations. Dynamic ?? or chaotic tiering ?? If your data life-cycle matures your assets in 30 days and you have a migration job executing daily, that a very dynamic system over the course of a year.. "Image" a data system that can manage your migrations 30x faster than your needs, it.. its.. its... just incredible !!!! Yes, now our lives are forever changed.. We don't have words to describe these feelings of amazement with such scale and impact. Where is Pablo Neruda when the data storage world needs him ? Dynamic tiering…. it sound like another einsteinian metaphore; relative to the user’s expectations. Dynamic ?? or chaotic tiering ??

If your data life-cycle matures your assets in 30 days and you have a migration job executing daily, that a very dynamic system over the course of a year..

“Image” a data system that can manage your migrations 30x faster than your needs, it.. its.. its… just incredible !!!! Yes, now our lives are forever changed.. We don’t have words to describe these feelings of amazement with such scale and impact.

Where is Pablo Neruda when the data storage world needs him ?

]]> By: Robert Pearson http://storagemojo.com/2009/08/06/avere-systems-dynamic-tiering-for-the-masses-of-data/comment-page-1/#comment-204621 Robert Pearson Fri, 07 Aug 2009 06:54:08 +0000 http://storagemojo.com/?p=1522#comment-204621 I gave up any hope of getting hybrid SSD + "rotating rust" devices about a year ago. In the last 6 months things have really been changing for the better in the SSD + "rotating rust" world. I am not sure that tiering or even "dynamic tiering" will be the final answer. It will be a good incremental step. "Clouds" are driving some interesting changes. One of those is the move away from managing at the "spindle" level, which is where we have been for too long. The next move needs to be away from the lack of leadership from the ROI, ROCE, ??? area (management) that is needed by the local "care and feeding" personnel in the TCO, CAPEX, OPEX, ??? area. You must have income growth to survive. Controlling expenses is necessary but not as important as income growth. "Clouds" are expensive but they stimulate income growth by delivering "Value Add" Services within the defined TCO. We now get "fries" and possibly a "Pepsi" with our "cheeseburger" (Unit of Information). The "Cloud" management tools are still missing. Perhaps because there is no leadership from vendors. That leadership would come in the form of a definable Strategy. Joni Mitchell said it well in her song... Rows and flows of angel hair And ice cream castles in the air And feather canyons everywhere I've looked at clouds that way But now they only block the sun They rain and snow on everyone So many things I would have done But clouds got in my way I've looked at clouds from both sides now, from up and down, and still somehow it's cloud illusions I recall. I really don't know clouds at all. I gave up any hope of getting hybrid SSD + “rotating rust” devices about a year ago. In the last 6 months things have really been changing for the better in the SSD + “rotating rust” world. I am not sure that tiering or even “dynamic tiering” will be the final answer. It will be a good incremental step. “Clouds” are driving some interesting changes. One of those is the move away from managing at the “spindle” level, which is where we have been for too long.
The next move needs to be away from the lack of leadership from the ROI, ROCE, ??? area (management) that is needed by the local “care and feeding” personnel in the TCO, CAPEX, OPEX, ??? area. You must have income growth to survive. Controlling expenses is necessary but not as important as income growth. “Clouds” are expensive but they stimulate income growth by delivering “Value Add” Services within the defined TCO. We now get “fries” and possibly a “Pepsi” with our “cheeseburger” (Unit of Information).
The “Cloud” management tools are still missing. Perhaps because there is no leadership from vendors. That leadership would come in the form of a definable Strategy.
Joni Mitchell said it well in her song…
Rows and flows of angel hair
And ice cream castles in the air
And feather canyons everywhere
I’ve looked at clouds that way
But now they only block the sun
They rain and snow on everyone
So many things I would have done
But clouds got in my way

I’ve looked at clouds from both sides now,
from up and down, and still somehow
it’s cloud illusions I recall.
I really don’t know clouds at all.

]]> By: Blake Irvin http://storagemojo.com/2009/08/06/avere-systems-dynamic-tiering-for-the-masses-of-data/comment-page-1/#comment-204615 Blake Irvin Thu, 06 Aug 2009 18:26:31 +0000 http://storagemojo.com/?p=1522#comment-204615 Robin, I worked with Rebecca at her last org, the enterprise search company where I'm a systems admin/architect. It's neat to see that you reached out to her, because I actually pointed her to your blog before she left (I knew she was moving to storage). Knowing Rebecca, and based on our conversations before she moved on, I expect pretty cool stuff when Avere *is* ready to talk. Robin,
I worked with Rebecca at her last org, the enterprise search company where I’m a systems admin/architect. It’s neat to see that you reached out to her, because I actually pointed her to your blog before she left (I knew she was moving to storage). Knowing Rebecca, and based on our conversations before she moved on, I expect pretty cool stuff when Avere *is* ready to talk.

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