Comments on: Atmos architect moves on http://storagemojo.com/2010/03/08/atmos-architect-moves-on/ Data storage info & analysis Sun, 20 May 2012 13:26:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Joe Kraska http://storagemojo.com/2010/03/08/atmos-architect-moves-on/comment-page-1/#comment-208611 Joe Kraska Sat, 13 Mar 2010 12:47:54 +0000 http://storagemojo.com/?p=1932#comment-208611 Um. Atmos is quietly selling to a discrete set of buyers in large volumes, guys. It sells in very large lots (multi petabyte procurements). You have to understand the edge case it is most appropriate for: files (not blocks), requirements for 2-3 replicates, and an integrated dissemination architecture. It's purpose-built to handle the world-wide file distribution problem of many web companies. It's NOT purpose-built to be a drop in replacement for all of EMC's other storage, so it should be no surprise that it is selling to its niche. Joe. Um. Atmos is quietly selling to a discrete set of buyers in large volumes, guys. It sells in very large lots (multi petabyte procurements). You have to understand the edge case it is most appropriate for: files (not blocks), requirements for 2-3 replicates, and an integrated dissemination architecture. It’s purpose-built to handle the world-wide file distribution problem of many web companies. It’s NOT purpose-built to be a drop in replacement for all of EMC’s other storage, so it should be no surprise that it is selling to its niche.

Joe.

]]> By: Angus http://storagemojo.com/2010/03/08/atmos-architect-moves-on/comment-page-1/#comment-208557 Angus Wed, 10 Mar 2010 12:27:38 +0000 http://storagemojo.com/?p=1932#comment-208557 Seems to me that Atmos is going the way of Centera. A sales force that basically refuses to sell it, the inveitable down-turn in sales, the good guys see the writing on the wall and finally....well just to say lucky for Atmos that they don't have engineering in Belgium. Seems to me that Atmos is going the way of Centera. A sales force that basically refuses to sell it, the inveitable down-turn in sales, the good guys see the writing on the wall and finally….well just to say lucky for Atmos that they don’t have engineering in Belgium.

]]> By: Damir Lukic http://storagemojo.com/2010/03/08/atmos-architect-moves-on/comment-page-1/#comment-208550 Damir Lukic Wed, 10 Mar 2010 00:52:21 +0000 http://storagemojo.com/?p=1932#comment-208550 I like the idea behind Atmos, but it seems like it's not Atmos's time now. Especially when V-Max boxes are around for less than a year, and are demolishing the competition. I can understand EMC's decision to sell as many V-Max boxes as possible, and not some cloud storage in the era when we don't know what will happen to cloud technology at all. But, again, this could be either good or bad decision. We'll have to wait and see what will happen. I like the idea behind Atmos, but it seems like it’s not Atmos’s time now. Especially when V-Max boxes are around for less than a year, and are demolishing the competition. I can understand EMC’s decision to sell as many V-Max boxes as possible, and not some cloud storage in the era when we don’t know what will happen to cloud technology at all.

But, again, this could be either good or bad decision. We’ll have to wait and see what will happen.

]]> By: Chris M Evans http://storagemojo.com/2010/03/08/atmos-architect-moves-on/comment-page-1/#comment-208535 Chris M Evans Tue, 09 Mar 2010 12:29:23 +0000 http://storagemojo.com/?p=1932#comment-208535 Robin Although I can see what EMC are trying to achieve, I think there are fundamental roadblocks in the way of people's view of Atmos. That's mainly because they have a historic view on how storage should be offered, making thinking into the future more difficult. For me, the biggest hurdle has been the removal of RAID from the architecture. I don't want to write data to a storage device that has hundreds/thousands of disk devices in it and have one of them fail just as I write my data. OK, I can replicate data to other nodes, but that's asynchronous and data can be lost in that time. I think it will be the case that Atmos will require more deployments and good news stories before it gains widespread acceptance. Otherwise it could be another inVista. Chris Robin

Although I can see what EMC are trying to achieve, I think there are fundamental roadblocks in the way of people’s view of Atmos. That’s mainly because they have a historic view on how storage should be offered, making thinking into the future more difficult. For me, the biggest hurdle has been the removal of RAID from the architecture. I don’t want to write data to a storage device that has hundreds/thousands of disk devices in it and have one of them fail just as I write my data. OK, I can replicate data to other nodes, but that’s asynchronous and data can be lost in that time.

I think it will be the case that Atmos will require more deployments and good news stories before it gains widespread acceptance. Otherwise it could be another inVista.

Chris

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